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Top 5 Pros & Cons of Diesel vs Gasoline Pickup Trucks

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howdy folks welcome to another fun

episode with a top 5 with the Vaseline

truck I've got Andre and camp with mr.

Trek comm and this is the top 5 pros and

cons diesel vs. gas which is featured in

truck nuts our new book chapter 7

Canton I co-wrote the book careful

trucks guide to pickup trucks that's

right truck nuts and why do we call it

truck nuts because we're nuts about

trucks we're pretty easy we're crazy

about trucks right and you wrote the

chapter in the book as well I certainly

did so let's get right to it because we

got a lot of information out there now

guys there's a pro and con for

everything but when it comes to gas

versus diesel there are two camps

however these two camp you guys are

going to go through both of them and you

guys please respond down below with what

you think okay the first one initial

price initial price of the truck this is

a big deal right yeah this is good gives

you a drive a diesel I Drive a gas so

we're really paired up for this but you

know the price of these diesels now has

gone up so much when you look at the RAM

with the Aisin transmission you're over

$11,000 combination transmission and

diesel shop ignition I'm not drive your

truck so you got that to look at so that

means it could take with the extra cost

of every 150,000 miles on that truck

just to break even on what you paid

extra for the diesel part of it now the

mid-size is another thing they because

they're only what five thousand four

thousand it's actually pretty reasonable

about about four thousand yeah you could

be sixty thousand dollars and pay for

the diesel option so you know it's

change deliver on the mid-size the

mid-size Oh $60,000 midsize truck no it

doesn't 60,000 mine Oh miles because

we're talking about cost per mile to run

and you know if you're looking at 150

thousand miles to pay off the big guy

you know you're looking at you know less

smaller matically less so you may

actually be able to afford the smaller

diesels for that reason but it still

goes on to it you know do you need to

tow all the time do you tow big loads

you know so these are all part of the

equation in how long do you keep you do

you plan to keep your truck right right

if you trade over two years or every

three years you do the least thing the

diesel unless you're towing with it all

the time it's hard

pay off but this goes right to number

four which is fuel mileage because

obviously Diesel's are going to get

better gas mileage than gas right right

and they also have to have def added to

them in order to do that so there's

there's there's sort of that trade-off

yeah there's a lot of numbers in that

equation okay so you're talking about

more expensive fuel filters more

expensive oil changes more expensive

mechanics and the depth like you brought

up so all that enters into whether this

is going to pay off or not and you know

so it's not just an easy thing most

people my opinion will buy the diesel

because of the power not because they

need it if you need it you need if I

took big traders all time like I used to

I would be driving a diesel and I think

the line between diesel and gas is not

as clear as it used to be

that's richer so I think about 10 years

ago you know diesels and pickup trucks

were you know they went together like

peanut butter and jelly but the gas

engines are so much better now you know

they're a lot cheaper beginning price

right now yeah and you know fuel economy

and gas prices and it's getting closer

and closer so the line is being blurred

let's just hit the gas vehicle in the

diesel vehicle when you're just driving

around the town or driving in the

country it's not that much difference

mile per gallon if you're pulling

diesels in it's dramatically different

so that's what you gotta say how often

do you drive around town go to Starbucks

I often you pull the trailers so now we

know we've we talked about this in the

book - yeah yeah in Chapter 7 yeah it's

an important decision because his

expensive decision to be looking at

11,000 premium on a ram you want to make

the right choice that's a lot of payment

built into your truck that's true but

then there's the other side of it which

goes to number three and that is

emissions and rolling coal right well

that's part of it but something let's

talk about that because emissions are

really strict nowadays on diesel

vehicles it's not like it used to be

let's drink all righty you gotta have

your test like every two years right so

you've got that extra cost on and

there's all those different parts

particularly diesel filter different

than catalytic and River all that stuff

keeps getting added to these diesels to

scrub the diesel to get the particular

matter down and that takes away power

takes away fuel economy and this is the

price of the list exactly that's part of

the problem is you know the EPA is so

involved you know unless you live in

Kansas or someplace where there's not

testing you know you end up with all

these things on your truck that Rob

power and also regen mode I mean in my

opinion that's not really convenient

right so you're throwing a big load and

you truck decides oh I need to regen

right now right and some trucks don't

even tell you when they're going to

regen mode right and it basically heats

up your exhaust system right to a higher

temperature so you can burn off some

soot yeah but you're losing a little bit

of power doing this right it cost you

more fuel and was kill so there is a lot

of trade-offs here and the other side of

it is there's a lot of guys out there

that love to blow the stuff out of their

exhaust guys like to roll cold yeah and

they take out they actually have to

usurp some of the systems in order to

make it happen right right and it's like

when the aftermarket equipment sometimes

they over fuel and cause all black smoke

so I you know there's a few companies

out there on aftermarket that are like

you know Gale banks they are designed to

not smoke like that with their

improvements right like that theory but

a lot of mark there just over fueling so

that's what it is your unused fuel out

there that some people consider that a

plus I mean there are guys out there who

love to drive diesels and pretend that

they're in a big rig with the big stacks

hanging up top and then yeah yeah it's

part of the fun I guess blow it all over

a Prius when they're passing by well

actually that goes into the number two

because we're talking about maintenance

it's one of the issues about these

trucks sometimes you're gonna be blowing

that black crap out of the back of your

truck when you don't want to or you're

going to be paying way too much money

for maintenance which this man has an

interesting story I have a story I have

a 2002 Chevy Duramax and I didn't buy it

brand new I got it when it was a few

years old but about two years ago I was

seeing silver smoke gray smoke coming

out of my exhaust pipe which is not good

news if you're driving a diesel uh it

was basically a sign of bad injectors

and my truck had about 150 thousand

miles on it so obviously I was pretty

upset because you know that's that

engine is not that old right but of

course I wasn't a perfect owner I ran it

out of fuel twice really

you're gonna go that's um and that's bad

for your injectors running out of fuel

so you know it's bad thing to do but it

cost me almost you know four and a half

thousand

dollars to replace injectors that's a

good deal yeah good yeah yeah so that's

a big cost when you have a used truck

and it was a decision to I keep my truck

you know that's a big investment into

your vehicle and it's down for a while

because you have to send it to a shop

it's like a ten-hour job or a 12-hour

job and so it's it's no good well part

of this question is how long do you keep

a truck and I think that nowadays with

that high-end maintenance cost you

actually are keeping them for less

amount of time and then used to these

guys out there with three hundred fifty

four hundred thousand miles on diesels

and that makes financial sense to them

because they've been continuously

maintaining the vehicle now the price is

so much more to maintain these vehicles

so does it make sense to hold on to them

as long as say you would a gas vehicle

that's true I remember the old days

eighteen years ago we used to calculate

50 to 80 thousand miles you paid for the

diesel option now I can say so close to

150 thousand miles and if you're not

really telling Hitler which goes into

number one towing capacities diesels

that's confusing too because you know if

you go by the rules you get a gas cab

single cab 2-wheel drive somehow that

the manufacturer will show you that that

will told more than this crew cab fold

Ivysaur yeah we all know it's not true

but that's how they go it's you know you

the weight of the vehicle is what you

add to the weight of the trailer that's

right so the light of the truck the more

trading capacity but that's not how it

really works in the real world and you

can't beat a diesel for towing up you

know that Gatlin towing heavy loads yet

so if you're tolling all the time you

don't really have you really need that

diesel but if you're not if you're using

this to go to work in and go into

Starbucks in you know that diesel may

never you know pay off but if you don't

interest it in the payoff mansur that's

your choice well yeah and yeah like you

said it's the common consumption is that

the diesel should Tomo right right but

because the diesel engines is so heavy

you know it's heavy transmission which

is a heavy duty transmission and then

you know we all like crew cabs right and

four by fours so it just depends where

you live right if you live when you

don't have a lot of elevation change

were you towing across town a gas engine

will work great right but as soon as you

start going up at 11,000 feet like we do

you got to have a diesel to help you get

over the hill basically I think example

is that black truck we had not too long

ago to midnight edition yeah

that thing only had what a thirteen

thousand pound gooseneck capacity right

really soprano is a diesel truck is it

is a longbed four-wheel drive loaded to

the max and so that's what you that's

part of the decision you have to make is

well I don't have capacity exactly

actually a really simple way of looking

at that is what Nissan's done with their

XT you have with the diesel obviously

tows more but the payload is less than

the gas engine and that's because of the

after weight of the diesel so that

definitely does throw people for a loop

but let's go to the bonus round here and

that is resale and aftermarket because

those are two things that are extremely

important to people who buy trucks right

yeah and resale to me is a little

confusing because I'm looking at used

heavy-duty I guess light duty is

different gasps heavy duty you can

hardly find a guess most you're going to

find diesels so you're kind of limited

to that area or a few gas engines so

that's part of that choice and you know

you don't that's specially on a diesel

because let me talk about more cost per

hour for the mechanic all these other

maintenance issues if you get a diesel

that was just rode hard and put up wet

it may cost you a fortune what you get

that you may have a truck payment and a

repairment payment well yeah that that

goes to the other chapter in the book

you know new verses you right right a

which truck would you rather have would

you have a brand new truck or a used

truck but I think as far as retail goes

I mean diesel trucks tend to you know

the better value you know on the youth

market because first of all there was a

conception that they last longer but and

you know the fuel economy the benefits

of that alright well do you agree yeah

yeah let's that's that's part of that

and you know we talk about aftermarket

you know that's one thing nice about a

used truck if the warranty is gone you

can start throwing aftermarket stuff on

there another buy warranty so you got

that but I you know I think it's easier

to modify a diesel engine it's easier to

get horsepower and torque from tuners

and all programs you use it is gas

propane yeah yeah nitrous I add CNG I

might use one that was wonderful

the combination so but I think because

diesel engines are tuber charged I mean

that's where all of them are you can

just plug in the computer just say I

want the hunting's horsepower now and

you get more horsepower of course you

can modify gas engines as

indeed but with modification of a diesel

engine I believe you did that

yes that's part of my that's right all

right well hey guys thank you so much

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