When to trade queens
When To Trade Queens | Patron Game Analysis #42
for now I would like to move on to game
number two and this game is by Mario and
we have to flip the boards because Marv
you playing with two black pieces and it
is the Sicilian it's a closest Oh No
okay rook b8 early it's a little bit
unusual isn't it I think usually people
develop first Bishop g7 and so on I
don't know if there's any immediate
drawback to this move but okay
interesting
a4 bum ba-bum 1973 castle and now your
opponent went a little bit overboard
right away just gifting your pawn which
was really nice of him I'm sure you
think him after the game so now you
pretty much already have a winning
position I mean here I don't have much
to comment so far all these moves make a
lot of sense Knight a5 there should be
some this is all great Knight see before
I think sauce and of course in many
options I mean you just pawn up with a
beautiful position I so this has gone
really well Knight takes here okay you
took of the paw of course this nice
Knight any move is nice nice ext4 also
looks pretty tempting to get a half-open
c4 I think I would have liked this even
a bit better because it just leaves more
dynamic still in position you know you
have to have open C file and later on
you could push f v e4 and so on so
because what happened the game was that
it dried a little bit up right that one
got away
so here it's it's not possible to
imagine a game will dry up in any way
really because there are a lot of open
thoughts even if I play c3 you take and
there are targets right so thinks he
takes d4 maybe even a bit
better takes Brooke you won Bishop 86
Queen d1 okay here I think Bishop III
would have been very strong 93 also
looks very nice but why not Bishop III
to get an ID - III without having
exchanged yeah I mean this must be just
complete this just came over here this
is the line you give okay look at night
hey tonight it's just a bit more
annoying than there than a bishop the
bishop is also very annoying on III but
the night has just came over we don't
have to talk about it right
I mean the only hope for Y would be to
exchange it somehow but no this is just
completely busted because the King is
also weak and yeah you should win here
sooner or later
so maybe you played Knight e3 too
quickly I don't know or maybe you miss
evaluate the position well of course in
both cases you're doing really well but
by playing 93 at least white is having
still a good control over the light
squares and efficiently free while it is
very nice here blocking me foul and
everything it's not doing terribly much
so white is still in the game even
though of course you pawn up and
everything but while still in the game
and we don't want that we want to be as
forceful as possible when we have to
advantage and don't give them any chance
to to hang around too long
I guess he played King yourself I don't
think there's anything wrong with going
a5 right away
all right let's just one more time f5
and then 9227
okay it's similar to the game I'm just
not sure why you play King do some to me
it seems not necessary okay King g7
Brooke f15 92 Queen d7 I think is also
very logical Knight c4 opa
takes takes you to okay here important
moment right queen trade always
important moment do we take them off or
not you trade the Queen's I think you
should keep them on and it's simple just
more chances for you if the Queen's are
wrong especially because the king is
weaker and this is I mean this is the
main question usually you want to ask
yourself when there's a queen offer
Queen trade offer which Kings safer and
it must be there it must be your king
here you also have an extra pawn to
guard your king right and in the future
you play a four and then probably like
even another pawn will come off in front
of the White King so Queen c7 Queen d7
doesn't really matter but I think you
should keep your Queens on and then it
could play a four and I think this is
giving you better chance just just
better chances I mean maybe my white
might hold somehow try to get a fortress
somehow but with Queens on the board is
just so much more potential right so
yeah more potential and your king is
safer so that's why you should keep the
Queens on the board I think a general if
there's a queen turtle for ya either
it's king safety or material obviously
if you're up material it makes often
sense to trade Queens and then just to
convert in the endgame because it takes
away counter play but once again feels
like it's connected to the King safety
because if you're up material
your king is safe then you might as well
keep the Queen's on board and checkmate
upon but if your king is not safe then
you want to trade Queens so you can
convert in the end game without being
checkmate
Queen takes King takes no play f4 yeah
probably should prepare of rookie six
first so not yeah why would you allow
the Knight to e4 right this is not
necessary if you have time here
a5 you always play b5 no problem
Knight xe3 is not a threat the rockin
game is very promising for you you could
take back
I don't want probably rope I don't want
it's fine just yes yeah really really
promising so no rush here I would say I
think he rushed a bit with f4 because
now the night is coming - the night is
coming to e4 and there of course it's
excellently placed so this was not
necessary to allow he played an odd move
rook e8 I don't know why yeah I don't
know why probably aimed against a five
but I mean it would be better to play
rook ecigs and then do something else
here
for example a c4 so after a five we can
just go b5 and huge still have good
chances to to win
you can use the C file especially as you
controlling the square so this is still
giving chances after ok 8 you don't have
many chance anymore I think now it will
be really tough
ok night before yeah here once again you
should place c4
it's probably your best shot
yeah and then c4 I mean this is a bit
tricky now but here you can go route a
e8 and the night really doesn't have a
good place now because what to do right
head to him not many squares left and
after 96 the night will on a6 right away
but first folks e6 to take the c7 square
way and then after b3 you could play a
six and an Ibis all the way on a three
now it's well really badly place and
then you can push the pawns forward and
you still have good chances here but
yeah c4 is already not an easy move to
make
and if why it doesn't take it takes an
f4 okay take and play rip c8 and you
have chances trying to come and not see
- you have chances of course your
position has been better in the past but
at least I used to have some chances
yeah h6g for oka 5 was also an option
here and also in the last move but your
opponent didn't want to do that ok see a
king of free and yeah if he knows your
last chance you have to play c4 because
in the next move your opponent plays b3
and then I think it's just a fortress
pretty much I mean this is all pretty
well set so I think it's for supporters
so you need to go see 4 here
maybe you were afraid of this move 96 if
so it was a matter of calculation here
this is actually winning move to two
thorns and a bishop this would be very
nice
just push the pawns forward and win mmm
so much shouldn't do that probably play
a move like h4 takes takes rook C to b4
and yeah this will be still tough to win
cuz the it's very difficult to get to
the king right it's very safe here an f3
of the night and everything so but this
is your best try somehow gotta make it
work I mean I could I could see see you
when that but won't be easy
all right let's see what you say here so
I'm reading I'm reading all right you
agree that the night is more powerful
afraid and Bishop yeah yeah that's a
I mean 93 also look tempting but that
was just a bit better still to half a
night in the end and III and you're
saying recapturing before to see poem
was much worse in some of her play was
too slow yeah I mean it's a matter of
taste maybe two but just seemed to me
just fell like sea taxi for this just
for the future keeps more potential okay
and with rook e8 you intended to you
intended to mmm prepare a six and B 5
yeah but just concretely it didn't
really do too much and you're saying in
in this variation the pawns look like my
game against James James Jackson James
Jackson from just a few days ago at the
Olive men international and you asked me
about the game I didn't prepared for now
because I had too many other games here
to prepare for but I might do a game
analysis maybe I'm quite busy at the
moment but maybe I'll get to this game
because it was a really interesting game
but for now let's stick with your game
and here I think of the rook c6 it
should be a draw because here yeah I
mean a computer says you should go a5
here or later but this is just to make
sure you're not worse this is not really
you're not I mean you're upon up but I
don't see how you could win this
position no I mean you would somehow
need to play G 5 H 5 and then penetrate
along the edge file but in the meantime
white will get ready for so I don't
see you witness but this okay this could
be still try somehow somehow to get to
set up but maybe wet even place oh yeah
what implies h4 here oops and now
there's really nothing you can do h 5g 5
or g 5 h 5 I mean just frustration of
course why could also take yeah I think
that would be wrong
ok so you want to push of course
understandably but it's sometimes you
also have to say all right well before I
lose this game I should better make a
draw and here actually you're risking
now by going to be 5 and your opponent
gets a vanish be 5 takes takes root beer
1 yeah and I mean why this really active
and like I said this setup is already
really good with Knight and King
and your Bishop is just a bystander here
so hmm
tough tough position and you don't
really have any chances so here you
realize you cannot take because 96-98
wins the exchange King h7 is what you
played it's a tough position already you
should play rookie 7 here and should be
still within close to equality but of
course you're fighting here so this was
not as it was intended
obviously KH 7 well one problem is you
still are not threatening to take
because there's not of six and still ok
maybe there's not a lot of six because
you could go to h8 and then after ok 8
you can go c8 but yeah keep some feels a
little bit wrong c5
and here you should definitely try to to
simplify of d3 it takes Bishop takes e5
when that should lead to draw I think
even though I mean it's why it is trying
for sure but it should need to go um
after rook is seven you much worse now
because you're also playing without this
Bishop more or less right so he could
play with a six and I think it's winning
already or it's it's pretty good at
least it's really good already be played
okay sir alright and now he's winning
after you next move
so you have to take of course not a move
one one happily place but this is what
needed to happen since after rook e6
this position is actually lost but as
you told me
there was a huge time scramble here you
don't have to remain in moves and
somehow white blundered I'm still
curious how exactly a blunder because
position is very safe it seems but well
something right some blunder I don't
know in any case you won the game which
is good yeah an OP game an OP came your
opponent giving you advance so early
pretty much getting winning position by
move we could say I mean all right here
you might call it winning position
because your pawn up plus the White King
is is clearly weak and then slowly but
surely you are losing the threat and in
the endgame you you don't you don't stop
even when when your bench was gone
already you
you still kept pushing and you over
pushed and that led to the losing
position so that's a tough tough one
psychologically to admit oh I I gave it
away I I let a man slip and then to be
like okay I need to play for a draw so
that's not easy to do but that's what
you needed to do otherwise you could
have lost that one I mean your position
was at this point in the final position
I have here this is a lost position
so I'd as an extra pawn and he can
support it with his rock of this night
and this is lost so yeah that should
better not happen to go from a winning
position to lost one in such a manner
but that's how we learn and fortunately
for you still had a happy ending here so
yeah maybe a couple of things I mean
like it like we said already here it's
you know it's details it doesn't change
the variation of the position if you
take off the C pawn same with if you
play 93 or Bishop e3 but we want to look
at what makes it easiest to convert
right we want to still play the moves
that cost the most trouble to our
opponent and that make it more likely
that he makes mistake that makes his
defensive task more difficult so in both
these cases I think it's clear that
these alternatives let Bishop III hear
or see texts before earlier make it more
difficult for your opponent and then I
think the last big point was to Queen
trade here where yeah Trading Queens
just eases the pressure alleviates the
pressure because at least why it doesn't
have to worry about his King anymore in
the end it was the white king who was
much safer right the white king some
knew if the setup was super
safe it's looking which is more exposed
because the bishop is on III just
looking cool but not doing anything so
yeah those that I think the big points
here and let me see if you have any more
questions about this game yeah yeah I
mean it's like you say I knew it but I
kept pushing yeah it's tough it's the
tough tough thing to do to to realize
okay I messed it up and now I have to
settle
I have to sell for draw that's it's not
easy and you say I'm not proud of this
game well we all have those kind of
games and even better did you still send
it in because those are the games we
learned from at least you still want it
right I mean it would have been much
more painful if you just lost this game
right after being better winning better
to winning the entire game if you lost
it would have been even worse so at
least at least you wanted somehow even
though yeah
curious how you did it but okay this
will remain behind the curtains
