attention agent just to keep things in
perspective we have specialists that our
PhD level Dan drost you may know him he
is our vegetable specialist so he dives
really deep into vegetables and in fact
I'll show you some of his fact sheets
and some information that you guys can
glean from his labors but I am a
generalist I have to know a little bit
about everything because even though I'm
a professor with the University I'm a
professor of the people so my day
consists of answering phone calls going
out on yard consultations teaching these
kind of workshops to the general public
which most people have about a seventh
or eighth grade level of knowledge when
it comes to any general topic so I get
to take all of the research-based
information that happens on campus and
through the PhD level research and I get
to regurgitate it to the public and so
hopefully we can do a little bit that
today I've got about 30 slides just to
talk about vegetables in general but
then I want to leave a lot of time at
the end to play what I call stump the
chump you guys can throw questions at me
and we'll try to answer them as best we
can but if you have a question in
between slides or you want to throw out
something please do this is a very
low-key setting and in my opinion it's
not I've been out of college quite a
while but I still remember the whole
Charlie Brown effect where's the
professor
that's not today so what do you guys
hope to learn today why did you come
besides the free chips and salsa anybody
okay how to have a productive garden how
many of you have not garden much at all
okay I mean you feel like you have green
thumbs okay so if I get anything wrong
you that's good if you can get it green
in Utah you're doing better than most so
to get started I just wanted to show you
some resources I've given you a couple
hand
without reference throughout the
presentation but another thing to keep
in mind is at garden USU dot edu we have
hundreds if not thousands of different
fact sheets these are specifically to
gardening we have over 75 different
crops that we can grow and there's a
fact sheet on every one when I took Dan
drost class in college one of the things
he had us do was to help write these
fact sheets they're called the in the
garden series so if you just google peas
USU it'll pull up peas in the garden
this is a really great resource our
marketing team is hands-down the best in
the nation they've actually won awards
in extension nationally for getting the
information out to the public
some of the things that are on the fact
sheets growing tips like spacing health
how far apart to put the plants how many
plants you would need to consume fresh
versus if you wanted to bottle things or
preserve it'll tell you how many plants
you would actually need some harvest
tips so we'll get into then also pests
which you're not the only one that likes
your garden so there's a lot of insects
in different diseases that we face when
we and we and we helped us as Extension
troubleshoot what those issues may be to
start with gardening you have to have
the right sight and I'm surprised often
how many people don't really understand
what vegetables need if it produces a
fruit it needs full Sun now here you can
see some chard and some different
vegetables the leafy vegetables can
tolerate a little bit of shade some
filtered shade but most vegetables need
six to eight hours of full Sun so keep
that in mind and soil is kind of a
moving target in Utah
especially in Julie mentioned I just
built a home one of the common practices
in new construction is they'll scrape
the topsoil and then sell it build your
house and then they'll put subsoil all
that nasty stuff underneath
up and around your house that's really
hard to grow in so when they built my
house I thought I was weird
I made him stockpile all the topsoil and
then when they were done with
construction I went and peeled it back
over so I had a good layer to work with
most vegetables can root in about 6 to 8
inches so it's not like you need 2 feet
of good Midwest soil you can do a lot
with just a little bit now if any of you
live in nibbly or areas where it's
really heavy clay content and it's hard
to garden one option is raised beds you
create your own growing environment with
raised bed gardening the the soil will
warm up a little bit quicker in the
spring and you don't have to worry about
tilling it so that's one option and we
do have a fact sheet on raised bed
gardening if you want to look it up
water you need access to it but most
people overwater their vegetables and
we'll talk about that as we get going
but you do need some source of clean
water
some weather considerations we talked
about how it's going to rain all next
week it's gonna be hard to get out in
the garden without growing a couple
inches for mud but other things to
consider are the temperatures not all
vegetables are created equally some can
tolerate really heavy Frost's others
will die so we'll break up some
vegetables and we cool and warm season
crops talk about that how many of you
have ever been on the climate us.you ddu
website we have weather stations all
throughout the state and we have a
department that's really great at
monitoring different temperatures so you
can actually go online this climate USU
edu and you can look up the average
latest frost in the spring and the
earliest frost in the fall and you can
see it varies quite a lot if you're in
Randolph you're gonna be really
hard-pressed to do any kind of gardening
because you can see mid June mid to late
June is when you get a lot of frost
still
if we're just looking here in Logan the
average latest frost state is about May
15th
so yesterday now that being said these
are averages it's almost like going to
Vegas I looked at the weather next week
we're supposed to dip down into the mid
30s at night and some crops you may need
to protect and we'll talk about that but
keep that in mind I usually say in Cache
County May 15th in October first hour
our girl is our growing season now some
years we'll have an Indian summer and it
would go a lot later but those are
pretty good general recommendations and
again USU campus is actually quite
warmer than the rest of the valley
because we're up on a hill all the cold
air drains down towards amalga you can
see the difference in growing days so
keep that in mind because some of the
crops cauliflower for example has about
100 to 150 days before you can harvest
it you can see in a malgal you be really
hard-pressed without doing some kind of
modification and maybe greenhouse
growing ok any questions thus far on
climate temperatures so like I mentioned
before cool season crops and warm season
crops who can give me an example of a
cool season crop spinach peas lettuce
cabbage radishes carrots so a lot of
these crops and I'll list them a little
bit later but they can tolerate really
cool temperatures in fact you could have
planted peas a month ago and been fine
even if it freezes they'll just kind of
sit there but then they'll start to grow
as soon as the temperature is about 55
to 75 degrees that's their optimal
growing conditions whereas warm season
crops such as corn tomatoes cucumbers
peppers all the sexy ones they're warm
season and they hate cold if they if
they get anywhere near 50 they'll
actually just shut down for a bit
they won't grow anything below 45
they'll abort their flowers so you have
to keep that in mind with those warm
season crops now we talked about
planting there's a couple ways to do it
there's planting by seed and then
there's transplants I didn't but I
didn't bring a package of seeds but
you've all seen those these are some
Tomatoes I grew in our office because we
can and these I planted about a month
ago and now they're ready to go out the
one thing with transplants is you you
buy yourself some time and we'll get
into that in just a little bit but if
you're seeding which you can with a lot
of crops there's what we call the three
times rule and that means you can plant
the seed three times deeper than the
seed is wide or big and the reason for
that is that seed holds all the energy
it needs once it imbibes or takes in
water it'll start to grow it'll
germinate and it has all that energy to
push up through the soil like this
little guy here and once that starts to
open up and grow then the true leaves
come out and it'll start to
photosynthesize but until that point
these are the true seed leaves and they
actually all the energy came from that
little seed if they're planted too deep
they'll start to grow up through the
soil and they'll run out of juice and
they'll actually die within the soil so
you have to make sure you don't plant
seeds too deep seeds are actually
regulated by the Department of
Agriculture and food they have plant
police that will actually go out and
test seed each year and they have to
have a 90 percent or higher germination
rate to be able to be sold so each year
they have to repackage seed so that's
kind of a good feel but you're not going
to buy something that's not going to be
successful most of the information you
have this garden wheel and if you turn
it you can look at the crop look at the
planting depth the row with the days to
maturity these are kind of fun but all
that you ever really need is on the seed
packet it'll tell you when to sow the
seed how deep how far apart and when you
can expect to harvest the crop so keep
that in mind you don't have to memorize
stuff you can just read it on the packet
takes kind of some of the fear away from
gardening now one thing I forgot to
mention before we started as gardening's
one of those things that I can sit up
here and talk for this amount of time
and you'll remember maybe five percent
of what I say but you'll remember a
hundred percent of what you do and most
of what I know about gardening is from
mistakes and killing stuff and so keep
that in mind that gardening isn't a
pass-fail kind of thing you can you can
come back and learn again some
germination tips if you are growing from
seed some of the really heavy heavy clay
content soils will crust and crack and
so if you're seeding that makes it
really hard for that seed to penetrate
that layer of crack let me rephrase the
layer of clay that's cracking you don't
grow in crack small seeds like carrots
and lettuce how many of you ever planted
lettuce or carrots you can actually put
them in a salt shaker and and they'll
fit through the holes of the salt shaker
they're so small so if you remember that
three times rule one of the tips I've
learned is you just put those seeds on
the on the surface of the soil and then
just kind of skip some soil over them
don't don't divot them with your finger
and plant them like you would a pea and
then because they're so exposed to this
the surface of the soil and the drying
that happens because of the solar
radiation sometimes I'll lay a piece of
carpet or plywood over the seed and OH
so I'll seed I'll water and then put the
plywood over and then that blocks the
Sun from drying the soil out too much
and I'll check it every day and once I
see the
little green starts then you can pull
that off because otherwise I've had a
lot of mishaps from planning really
shallow seed and having a dry out in
between waterings okay you guys are
quite a bunch no yeah you can mow seed
will germinate without the Sun okay a
couple other tips on my peas I'll
actually soak them the night before I
plant them in water and they'll imbibe
that water and kind of kickstart the
germination process the other thing it
does is any dead seeds will float to the
surface so you can skim those off and
throw them away okay not all but the
bigger ones mmm corn and peas you don't
have to but I think it's kind of fun now
these are again some of the cool season
crops we mentioned earlier these are the
ones I like to tell people to start with
if you're new to gardening they're just
kind of easy low hanging fruit peas
germinate really readily radishes
they'll germinate and you can eat them
really quick you'll probably only do it
once my kids hate radishes but I love
growing the the different lettuce crops
the chard there's one called bright
lights that is really pretty in the
garden so aesthetically it adds some
stuff now these are usually direct
seeded into the garden because again
they can tolerate cool soils you can
plant these as soon as the soil is
workable usually mid-march these with
the astrick however we use transplants
why yeah so
cauliflower hundred days hundred and
fifty days to maturity you get those
transplants and you've got six to eight
week head start so if you're planning a
transplant you've just bought yourself
six to eight weeks so you can harvest a
lot earlier the other reason we do it is
again these are cool season crops if
cool season crops experience 85 95
degree weather they do what's called
bolting they'll actually prematurely
flower so instead of getting a lot of
leafs and produce you're gonna get
flower stalks because it tricks them
into thinking they're their times done
so bolting is is one thing that's caused
by heat and if you've ever eaten lettuce
that's been exposed to hot temperatures
it's really bitter produces a lot of
that milky latex sap yes yes yeah we
call them cole crops they're in one big
family okay
this handout that I gave you
I had marketing work up for me and they
did an awesome job this kind of shows
about the timing that you can seed
directly in the garden you can see
typically first of april's usually when
we start so with some of these cool
season crops you can do it earlier but
if the soil is really cold the seed just
sits there
it won't germinate so this is kind of a
reference point some general information
on length to harvest but if you haven't
started cool season crops there's still
time you can see you can you can see
some of these cool season crops clear to
the first to June and be alright and
then you can also see the warm season
the peppers the cucumbers you want to
wait until at least Mother's Day is
generally what we tell people when that
cool cool weather pattern kind of breaks
any questions on this
okay so the question is specifically on
Tomatoes the different temperature
ranges before they'll shut down or when
they grow well or when do you need to
protect them the easy answer for that is
about 50 degrees is the low that they
will still produce and grow well they'll
survive mid-30s the plant but if you're
getting around 35 degrees I would still
cover the plants just to give yourself a
buffer and we'll talk about frost
protection but there's another scenario
where it can get too hot and the plant
will actually abort the flowers and
we'll talk about that specifically with
with Tomatoes okay so these be starts
one of the mistakes I've made in growing
transplants is doing it too early
because if you do it too early they
can't put them outside anyway and then
you're stuck babysitting for months so
we'll talk about transplants as well on
the other side of that handout is an
advertisement for what we call the
gardeners Almanac and this is three
years of my life and marketing's put it
all together there's over 200 different
fact sheets and hot links to these
different fact sheets what we did is we
broke up all the different gardening
activities based on the month monthly
calendar and then you can click on all
of these blue hyperlinks and it will
take you directly to a fact sheet so
this will tell you everything you should
be doing in April in May and you can
click on it if you want more information
this is a website with all the
hyperlinks you can also download it on
your phone as an app
but it's a static app it doesn't have
the hyperlinks it's just the list okay
now let's switch gears and talk a little
bit about some warm-season again the
corn peppers cucumbers the the vining
crops the squash and melons these you
need to wait until the soils warm just
by nature that's what they like now most
of these will grow from transplants
again because the the growing period and
to make some hay while the Sun shines
but I've got some colleagues that swear
by planting from seed how many of you
have planted cucumbers from seed I have
a friend that did a comparison because
he was a scientist he planted cucumbers
from seed in a nut start and he said the
seed grew the same rate as a start and
produce the same time so you can kind of
switch hit on these anybody ever had a
son sugar tomato they're like candy so
just a little bit of warning on
transplants when you go to the nurseries
and you buy transplants somebody can win
this today it's the person that has the
greatest amount of not amount but the
best question can have the can have the
tomato starts yeah if you stumped me you
can take them now there's four of them
so there's another question no they're
not these are called super Stakes one of
my favorite things to do is try new
varieties every year just to see how
they do or what they taste like and I've
learned a lot of what I don't like
there was one tomato one year I called
it's called whip PSICOM peach it's a
fuzzy tomato like a peach it's nasty so
I know not to grow that one again but
when you're buying transplants this is
an example of a bad example this picture
here you don't want fruit on the plant
that means it's way too old for that
container nobody's going to get mad
at you if you pull the plant out of the
container we have a 50/50 rule we call
it where 50% of the route to soil you
should be able to see soil if it's just
all massive roots
that's root bound you'd have to either
tear it apart or I just like putting it
back and let some other guy buy it yeah
bitter cucumbers are heat - yep it's
kind of a catch-22 if it gets too hot
then it builds up those those compounds
that make them bitter now there are some
variety issues there as well
there's one called a burpless tomato or
a burpless cucumber they're supposed to
have less of those compounds so you can
search for some that are touted as being
less bitter but if they experience heat
they'll still get really burpless the
other shade cloth Dan drost and his
team's actually doing a lot of research
on peppers especially getting sunburned
so they'll get a 30% sun reflecting
cloth and put over the rows and that
seems to help quite a lot I mean if it's
gonna be 95 degrees there's nothing you
can do for that it's just gonna be what
it is so make sure they're not too
mature in the pot you want at least two
sets of true leaves and then keep in
mind that they were watered every day if
not twice a day in the greenhouse
because the soil media is just really
porous so when you put them in your
garden you might have to baby them for a
week water and more often than you would
regularly this is what I mean when I say
true leaves versus seed leaves this is a
cucumber these are seed leaves and
that's the true leaf of the cucumber so
you want at least two sets of those true
leaves the
we transplant them can I come back to
that because I am gonna answer that this
this chart is just an example if you are
going to start transplants in in your
home you need to make sure you have
supplemental light a south-facing
windows not enough but you good news is
you can buy a shop light from one of the
big-box stores any of the shop lights
will work you just need to have them
about two inches above the plant and
they need light for about fourteen hours
so but if you do start them I mean you
don't have to get crazy and start them
in January don't do it I've done it
before and it you hate it most plants
about four to six weeks before the last
average average frost state is all you
need to start a tomato plant or a pepper
plant
okay so again tomatoes for six weeks you
start those about the April first and
you can put them out mid-may now the
nurseries you ever seen the big gallon
size tomatoes or even five gallon
Tomatoes they've obviously grown those
longer and they just bumped them up into
bigger containers as they grow no so the
leg enos actually occurs from not enough
light they're stretching for the light
so that's why we say drop it two to four
inches above the plant closer to make it
shorter yep okay a couple other things
on transplanting Tomatoes that is the
one crop that will actually root up the
stem so you could bury this plant to
here and it would form roots all along
here and more roots equals more plant so
some people will dig a trench and lay it
sideways and then pull the top up I just
buried a little deeper and I've already
removed the lower leaves today because
they were ugly but yeah tomatoes you can
bury deep it's about the only crop that
you can do it with cucumbers and melons
anything in the queue cucurbit family we
call it they really hate being disrupted
if you have a transplant you have to
baby it most plants you can actually rip
the roots apart and it'll they'll do
fine it'll kill cucumbers so if you're
starting with transplants be really
careful at the roots let's see what else
oh don't grab them by the leaves grab
them by the stem so frost protection
this is a picture I took just up in Hyde
Park the green are there called walls of
water they're like a mini greenhouse you
fill up little separate compartments
with water and that insulates the ground
I like putting those kind of things out
about a week or two before I plant and
that warms the whole soil profile up so
the plant when you do plant it it's
happy and ready to go one thing to keep
in mind again this is from some of my
screw-ups if you leave those walls of
water or even the hot caps on in the
daytime and at sixty degrees it's thirty
at least thirty degrees hotter inside
that plastic than it is in the ambient
temperature so you're talking 90 plus
degrees in those walls of water and I've
actually killed Tomatoes by leaving them
on too long so as soon as the the frost
danger is gone take those off let them
just have the ambient air temperature
but again next week when we're in the
mid 30s it's not a bad idea to put them
on because it'll give you about three to
five degrees in buffering from freezing
I've had people even do tarps or
blankets because what that does is it
it's not stopping the cold from getting
in it's blocking the heat from the soil
as it radiates out and so it keeps it
trapped along
the plants okay any questions on this
hmm yeah thank you getting ready huh no
milk cartons work great I mean you get
you get a little bit less protection
it's not like a wall of water where you
have to all that massive water
insulating but they do work you'll get a
couple degrees okay
fertilizers a lot of people mess up on
this step because they fertilize too
much they love their plants to death
every year I'll get a phone call in the
Extension Office where somebody says I
I've got an 8-foot tomato plant and I've
never had fruit on it what what do you
guys think the issue is way too much
nitrogen so when you look at a bag of
fertilizer you have three numbers the
first number is nitrogen second numbers
phosphorus and the third number is
potassium if you get a soil test which I
would highly recommend they're about $25
for a routine soil test it'll tell you
all that your soil has to offer and most
of the ones because I'm an extension
agent I get a copy of all of the
public's soil tests and so when I get
them I'll open them up just to be nosy
and most of the ones I see have adequate
phosphorous and adequate potassium
they're in the soil they don't leave the
soil very much and so they're just there
so when I garden after I did my soil
test and I knew I had phosphorus and
potassium there I just use nitrogen
nitrogen is mobile it washes through the
system and the plants use it at more
rates than the other two so nitrogen
they won't tell you in a soil test
because they always assume it's needed
and the way I remember these three
numbers the NPK is top down all around
so nitrogen's for top growth green
growth fast
for fruit and root growth and potassium
it being a salt regulates water
potential within the plant so it's
all-around vigor of the plant
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not all fertilizers are made equal there
are a lot of different types of
fertilizers and ways to get the
fertilizer to the plant whether it's a
slow-release pellet form whether it's a
chemical fertilizer that's been created
or whether it's an organic form from
once to ribe animal or plant material
the chemical itself the nitrogen of the
phosphorus or potassium the plant
doesn't care where that comes from
that's a you as a gardener decision if
you want to do organic fertilizers great
one thing I will mention is the the
chemical fertilizers usually have higher
percentage of the active ingredient for
example ammonium sulfate is 2100 and
I'll reference that in just a second
that number is a percentage so 21%
nitrogen in that fertilizer if you use
blood meal or bone meal they're more
like 4 to 5 percent so you have to use
more of it to get the percentage of
nitrogen if that makes sense
but again the plants don't care how they
get it so when we talk about vegetables
and recommendations for fertilizer all
of the publications that I've ever
referenced talk about pounds of Knack
actual nitrogen per thousand square feet
now when I garden I don't garden in
thousand square feet
I garden in a 10 foot row so one day I
just closed my office door and I got a
calculator out and I just did all the
math and what it worked out to be kind
of frustrated me because it was about a
handful so some crops don't need hardly
any fertilizer though the peas and beans
they're cut they're legumes so will
actually fix their own nitrogen just
from the air so they're considered low
used crops
that's about a quarter cup of fertilizer
this ammonium sulfate per ten-foot row
moderate which is most vegetables
cucumbers broccoli cauliflower most of
them need about 1/3 of a cup of ammonium
sulfate per 10-foot row and that equates
to about 2 to 3 pounds of nitrogen per
thousand square feet and then there are
some high use crops corn is a really
high use crop a lot of the leafy
vegetables and onions even potatoes
their high use crops so we'll actually
do split applications well will
fertilize it seeding for example with
corn and once corn gets about two feet
tall you'll fertilize it again and then
as it tassels you'll fertilize it one
more time but again it's it's about a
handful so when I'm gardening I don't
take measuring cups out I just kind of
that's very scientific you're welcome
yeah as long as fertilizer doesn't get
wet it can freeze it can do whatever
I've had a I had I just used up the last
of it I had a bag of ammonium sulfate
lasted me five years and it's actually
one of the cheapest fertilizers out
there okay sorry that is true it's a
salt so it can melt ice okay
just a few precautions about manures
scoop on poop it's actually a really
good source of nitrogen phosphorous in
fact some of the soil tests I get back
if somebody's been adding manure a year
after year into their garden as a
practice of introducing good compost the
phosphorus will actually raise and
almost become too much phosphorus
so if you add manure that's great just
don't do it year after year after year
do different forms of compost
another thing is you make sure that it's
cured which means it's heated up it
doesn't resemble anything that went into
the pile it looks almost like dirt and
it's cooled down to ambient temperature
if it's hot to the touch it's not done
and composting correct composting will
kill most weed seeds except Tomatoes
don't they'll withstand nuclear anything
but you can introduce weeds the other
thing to keep in mind is a lot of the
manures that are added into compost like
turkey manure or poultry can be really
high in salt so keep that in mind you
may need to wash those out with some
irrigation you have a question no dog
poop is not good for the garden and I
have a big hundred foot or a hundred
pound dog he poops a lot but I just have
to throw it away because meat-eating
animals cats and dogs they they carry
diseases sometimes and we don't want
those near our vegetables and also it
attracts mice and rats and other things
so we don't want the garden so great
question yep yeah some some manures are
really low in salt like like bunny poop
so you can actually just till that right
into the garden okay any other questions
on manure it's kind of a hot topic at a
lot of questions
another way to introduce some organic
matter is green manure growing certain
crops letting get to a certain height
before they go to seed and then tilling
those into the ground that's what we
call green manure in gardening the best
gardens usually add two to three inches
of compost every year eighty to ninety
percent of that compost goes away the
microbes eat it up and as that compost
is eaten up the microbes actually will
release nitrogen and other nutrients to
the plants
now compost isn't always the best
immediate source of fertilizer but it is
a good long-term solution for for
feeding plants we could talk about
watering for an hour but we won't just
know that most people over irrigate I
was raised on a farm and it came from
the era where we had water rights and
you got your water turn about every
seven days and that's when we watered
and we grow some great crops in farm
town most people because of the advent
of the clock on their controller and
their irrigation system they'll set it
and forget it and they'll set it to come
on every other day if not every day
crops don't like to be wet all the time
they'd like a dry down time so water
them deeply and letting let them dry out
the example that goes against that adage
however is some of those shallow rooted
crops like onions and lettuce their
roots only go down so far so you need to
water them a little bit more often but
mostly every five to seven days and
again how it gets that water whether
it's drip irrigation furrow irrigation
plants don't care as long as the water
gets there mm-hmm deep and infrequent
okay so how many of you heard about oh
go ahead
that's awesome that's a great way to do
it
no in fact corn is notorious for when it
wilts it'll curl and it'll do that in
the middle of summer even if the what if
the grounds wet and it's just the what's
happening is the stomata the holes
underneath the leaves are closing to
conserve water and so they'll curl
squash will do that give it a watch
squash in the heat of summer it just
lips will tea but then in the evening
when the Sun Goes Down the perks back up
it's just a conservation method but it
doesn't mean it's gonna die if it wilts
for a long period then that's permanent
wilting which is that okay now how many
of you heard of rotation what have you
heard okay how so the reason we talk
about rotation is each of these families
we call them like we talked about cole
crops earlier they they Harbor the same
diseases and they Harbor the same
insects so if you plant tomatoes in the
same spot of your garden year after year
after year it doesn't necessarily mean
you're gonna get diseases but the
likelihood increases every year the
great potato famine in Ireland happened
because there was a buildup of a fungal
pathogen and it wiped out the entire
countries potatoes and so when we talked
rotation we're basically trying to
outrun a grizzly bear you've heard that
analogy how to outrun a grizzly bear you
don't have to outrun the bear just a
slower person that's basically what
we're doing with these diseases is you
the diseases are always going to be
there but you're trying to keep ahead of
them and so if you grow tomatoes peppers
and potatoes they're all in the same
family just move them around in the
garden every couple years and that way
you plant corn or something else that
has a whole different set of needs and
diseases and that way it
you're you're less likely to have
problems yeah okay so let's get into
some specifics no the question is does
tilling help alleviate some of the
diseases no in fact you probably are
spreading it and I got to be careful how
I say this rotation is a good idea
that's it
I mean you you cannot guarantee that
you're not gonna have problems you can
just kind of avoid it the best you can
and if you have a small garden spot
that's only ten feet by five feet or
rotations kind of pointless because
you're just moving dirt back and forth
as you tell anyway just do the best you
can so the question is there any
additives to reduce some of those
pathogens yes organic matter really
helps introduce the good microbes to
help keep the bad microbes in check
okay so salad crops let's talk about
these for a second we talked that the
cool season you want to avoid really hot
weather or else you get bitter or
bolting Lily mentioned you don't want to
water stress them because they are
shallow rooted so about every three to
five days you're watering harvesting on
lettuce and chard and what's that dark
green one that my wife puts in smoothies
kale you can actually harvest those with
scissors and and they'll regrow as long
as it's decent weather and not too hot
this is another one where you can
actually have a fall crop you can come
in late August and reseed and have a
crop throughout the fall till it freezes
and spinach will actually grow under
snow it's so cold hardy
how you avoid hot weather just the
timing of when you plant it in the
summer I rip my lettuce out mm-hmm well
if you can shade it you can grow it
longer period but in the summer it just
the lettuce just shuts down you could
stretch it yeah if you if you shade it
but it's it's both once it gets in the
90s it'll just it'll you'll watch the
lettuce will just flower instead of
shooting out leaves yeah so then I'll
rip mine out and plant beans or
something in its place so kind of a
secession planting same with peas I'll
plant peas in the cool and when they're
done I'll plant tomatoes where they were
okay that one's a tough question because
it depends on her soil I would soak the
foot profile and as long as that soaks
then that's long enough no she can use
them the germination rate just goes down
as the seed is older but usually two to
three year old seed is just fine okay
some salad toppers like your radishes
carrots cabbage kind of the same idea
cool season don't water stress them but
again transplants work really good on
the coal crops and some harvesting tips
look again at the seed packet and mark
your calendar and go out and check
you'll see on radishes you'll start to
see the red hump or the red top's
pushing out of the ground the cold crops
you'll get the full heads you can
actually harvest broccoli and
cauliflower multiple times
you cut it and it'll form a new head
it's like a Hydra keeps coming back
onions and garlic are some of my
favorite things to grow in the garden
just because of the grass like look
there's very few insects and diseases
that get into them but there are some if
you run into it contact us we'll help
you through it but garlic is actually
best planted in the fall and it will
actually be one of the first things to
pop up in the spring and start to grow
and usually by mid July early August
you'll start getting some full heads
when you're harvesting onions and garlic
you'll let them kind of die down
naturally they're yellow up and you just
kind of knock the tops over let them dry
down in the field some people will dig
them and lay them above the ground and
then once they cure for a couple weeks
then you can pull them in and store them
some people will braid the tops and have
big old clusters of garlic and onions
but and then you'll store them about
5055 degrees a garage that some heated
is a really great place to store and
they'll keep all winter long
they go to seed try planting them a
little earlier yeah if you do get
bolting just cut them off same with
rhubarb if you've ever seen that to
flower stalk on rhubarb just cut it off
because it's just wasting energy
but both things when they flower
prematurely they kick into a
reproductive stage instead of productive
stage okay now is the super model of the
vegetable world the tomatoes
everybody loves Tomatoes well I
shouldn't say that I know plenty of
people who don't like tomatoes but they
are not very good people they're very
warm season lots and lots of different
varieties out there that that I love to
try in our area sometimes will
experience what we call a splits
we will get the first flush of tomatoes
and then you'll get nothing and then
when it starts to cool down again you'll
get the second crop we call that a split
set because anything above 90 degrees
those flowers will actually abort and so
the flowers will drop off the plant
because of the heat and they'll conserve
their energy until it cools down so it's
nothing you're doing down in the Wasatch
Front where I lived there was some years
I didn't get tomatoes until September
because it got so hot so quick and then
stayed hot and so that's one thing to
keep in mind we talked about nitrogen so
any time your tomato starts to flower
that's a cue to stop fertilizing that
will help help produce fruit instead of
top growth couple problems or tomato
tantrums blossom end rot everybody's had
it you're a normal gardener it's not
anything to be ashamed of
it's when the blossom end of the of the
fruit darkens and gets sunken what
happens is that's a calcium deficiency
and people in the nursery industry have
cued in on this and they'll sell you a
calcium spray which don't buy it we have
plenty of calcium in our soils what's
happening is a fluctuation in in soil
moisture calcium is taken up with water
and so if you allow that really long dry
time in between watering on tomatoes
then that calcium deficiency shows up on
the fruit so even a mulch along the top
of the root system will help even out
that moisture and alleviate some of that
problems shoulder cracking like this
pitcher that's usually caused from
overhead irrigation and the fruit gets
wet and then it gets hot and it'll split
another thing is some varieties are a
lot more prone to this some of the
heirloom varieties are really prone to
to shoulder cracking now when I say
heirloom that means old and you can save
the seed and it comes back true to form
so Brandywine one of my favorite
tomatoes it's an
I can save the seed and plant Brandywine
year after year after year a hybrid is
basically two tomato plants that they've
crossed planted the seed to see what
they get and they find either increased
disease resistance funky colors or
striations and so then they'll save that
seed and propagate that vegetatively and
so if you plant a hybrid which how many
of you had kids I have four kids they're
hybrids this isn't this isn't a GMO kind
of thing
hybrids just means that they did a cross
man-made cross and so these hybrids have
been selected through the years to have
disease resistance so if you ever buy a
tomato and it has these acronyms on them
like a VF na TM v tswv those are just
acronyms indicating what diseases these
tomatoes are resistant to one of the big
ones is verticillium it's a fungal
disease that lives in most garden soils
and it'll kill tomatoes and so if you
grow a tomato and it dies cut it open
look in the stamina for there's brown or
green streaks
that's verticillium basically just
clogged up water works so that's why a
lot of people will go to hybrids to
avoid some of those diseases okay any
questions on that
let's see potatoes anybody from Idaho
you guys teased us all the time in Utah
saying we can't grow potatoes
call us carrot snappers right now the
reason I think we can't grow potatoes
very well is again the watering issue we
over water and so the potatoes raw in
the ground potatoes are not a root crop
they're actually stem so everywhere
there's an eye that's actually a leaf or
it can become a root so when you do seed
potatoes they're usually virus free and
pathogen free you'll cut those
as long as you have two eyes that
becomes a plant one of those eyes will
form the top and want to form the roots
and as potatoes grow a lot of people
will heal them because much like a
tomato they'll form roots along that
stem and wherever they form roots they
form little nodules of little tubers
okay
again this is one where don't fertilize
after July or when their flowering
that's a good indication to stop anybody
ever had new potatoes just go out in the
garden and kind of steal them they're
the best in the Sun in in the fall time
as the plants naturally kind of wilt
down and die that's when you can dig the
potatoes up cure them again for a couple
weeks and you can store them now after
all that language
I don't grow potatoes in my garden
because I can buy a big bag for about
five bucks and so they're fun to try
there's some really unique varieties as
a purple potato do that one year my kids
will need it I thought it was too weird
if they're in the Sun you'll put them in
a shady area yeah okay vining crops
these are your squashes and melons again
warm season avoid cool cool soils
they've done a lot of research there's a
lot of different universities showing
especially these warm crops timing on
planting and soil temperature is more
important than air temperature and
they've planted really early they
planted mid and they planted late and
the late ones always caught up and did
better so don't be in too big of a hurry
to plant your squashes if you want to do
direct seed about five to ten days
before the last average frost date is
great if you plant transplants just wait
for that time if you ever get some again
cucumbers that are bitter
that's hot temperatures if you've ever
had a watermelon or a cantaloupe that's
really piffy inside kind of spongy
that's actually over watering so a lot
of the
good growers they'll allow the the fruit
to get to size and then they'll actually
cut the water completely to that field
and they'll allow those plants to kind
of drought stress and that will
concentrate the sugars into the fruit
and it actually increases the sugar
content some harvesting con tips I one
of my favorite hobbies is to sit in the
produce section and watch people come
and smack melons I just get a kick out
of it cuz it doesn't work when a
watermelon is ripe right well let's
you'll have this ground where it ground
tissue where it was on the ground
it'll be a yellow or a muted color and
then right where the the vine comes out
of the fruit there's two little tendrils
little curlicues those will dry up once
those dry up the fruits ripe on a musk
melon or a cantaloupe that section of
where the divine connects to the fruit
will actually slough off so to tell
where the cantaloupes right you'll
actually grab it
just hold the vine up and if the fruit
falls off it's good to go now squashes
one person in this room could grow a
zucchini and that would be enough it
always stands me when people plant four
or five zucchini because then you just
lock your car because you're gonna end
up with some shove it in there the other
thing is zucchini is good when it's
about six to eight inches long part of
my job with extension is helping judge
the county fairs throughout the state
and I can't tell you the 40 pound
zucchini bats they come in they're not
good for anything
so harvest them regularly daily on the
summer squash the winter squash you'll
actually let them stay in the field and
tell a hard frost and it'll kill the
vines the vines will die down you'll go
out and you scratch the rind of a winter
squash with your fingernail it should be
hard enough that you can't kind
trade the skin so that's the difference
between summer squash and winter squash
legumes the peas and beans peas or cool
season beans are warm season so totally
different planting times there's Bush
type or trailing type most of them the
trailing type will do really well with
the trellis system on my peas I put a
cattle panel up and it crawls up it does
really well then I can just pick peas up
here and set off the ground water is
very crucial during the bloom time so
that those those seeds can fill and you
harvest them as the seeds fill that's
kind of no no science behind that okay
we're gonna finish up a sweet corn and
then be done corn is one of my favorite
crops but it takes up a ton of space if
you have a small garden don't grow it
just go buy it from the farm stand it is
a high nitrogen user and don't think
that you can trick the crop one year I
put corn about eight inches apart in
rows and really close and the leaves
actually wouldn't allow the pollen to
pollinate the silks so it needs space
because the the tassel is the male part
of the flower and the silk is the female
part and they need to come in contact to
get fruit okay so what crops did we not
talk about or questions that you do have