Seed Starting Perennials Indoors: All the Details,Start Early, Grow Roots, Over-Seed & Divide

welcome to the rest of garden homestead

today's video is all about starting

perennials indoors I've already shot a

video on starting annuals and I have

about eighteen and nineteen videos in

the seed starting series for 2020 you

can find that in the description if you

want to check that out I'll also put in

links throughout the video so today

we're gonna talk about perennials and

what is a perennial perennials they're

typically flowers they could be

something like rosemary it's a plant

that comes back year after year in your

zone so in my gardening zone I'm in

Maryland zone 7 we get freezing winters

perennials can take deep freezes through

plant leaves all die back and everything

but the roots stay intact they do find

ground freezes and the prey knows come

back year after year and one of the

benefits of growing your perennials your

perennial flowers is one they attract

pollinators good insects butterflies

everything to your garden but they come

back year after year so if you put the

work in now you're gonna have continued

flowers popping up wherever you put them

for years to come and when they get

bigger you can divide them out and just

spread out you know the wealth of

flowers that you have so it's really

worth starting them indoors because it's

easy and it saves you a lot of money so

we're gonna go over all these different

plants but I have these seed packs let's

talk about today's date today's date is

February 14th happy Valentine's Day but

these are plants that have already

started these are shasta daisies they're

in the larger containers these were

started on December 20th and you can see

how large they are they're overseeded

I'm not going to do that in this video

talked about them already in the seed

starting series but what I'll do now is

I'll divide these in half put them into

some more containers like this or I'll

just put them into larger containers and

these are going to be ready to go out

into the garden they're gonna bloom this

year so that's the chest of daisies and

many went from December 20th so that's

what a month almost four weeks worth of

growth these are shasta daisies that

were started on january 25th a nice

brought pretty quickly so that's a good

size over seating method larger cell I

saw these larger cells at my seed shop

and these will be divided out again a

great way to save money purple

coneflower this is verbena a single

plant these were started on December

20th in small cells like this and then

they were potted up and I'm going to be

growing more of these but these do in my

area do really well from seed so I'm

gonna put some out straight into the

garden I let them grow a while a while

all over my garden I really like the

flowers and the plants so you can pick

up any CPEC really or any perennials in

your seat platform that wherever you

want to shop and they'll say perennial

right on there now I've set these up

with the same packs that I'm going to

show you how to plant all named so I

like butterfly weed I've grown that just

about every year I divide it out I put

more out there it's a great plant for

attracting butterflies and lupines I'm

gonna put them into the bigger

containers because I want more of those

so let's just talk about the seed pack

so if you flip them over it will tell

you a lot of information how long till

bloom sometimes it tells you what zone

the perennial is in if you can't find

that you have to look it up and say you

know just type in perennial butterfly

weed and it will show you in what zones

that it is a perennial if you get really

really deep freezes sometimes your

perennials don't make it so just check

that out so we have butterfly weed

butterfly flower this is something new I

think it's the same thing that they're

different name even though the Latin is

different but we'll see so I'm going to

grow that carnations I grow every year

lupines foxglove painted daisy poppy and

Canterbury bells these are perennials

most of them have grown before they do

really well being started indoors so on

the front of the packs I'd like to write

down some information because my eyes

are getting weaker as I get older so

for instance this butterfly weed you

could sell so 12 weeks before your hard

freezes come so I could sew this in the

fall late summer the root systems were

established and then the freeze comes in

but 12 weeks is enough time for these to

get established and then come the spring

of this year they would all sprout up so

you can also sometimes plant these in

the late summer early fall so that they

germinate get established and they will

succumb back and the reason you would do

that is to try and get blooms sooner

that's why we're planning indoors the

blooms can take this one a bloom first

year even though it says longer so it's

10 to 21 days to germination pre chill

these seeds put them in a refrigerator

10 to 14 days let them get cold that

helps with germination I know that these

bloom the first year if you start them

indoors because I've always done it when

we get to the butterfly flower

it says 365 days for the bloom 20 days

to germination and we'll talk about that

in a second or how do you figure out

what in the startup bottom line you can

start your perennials 12 weeks before

they would go outside all of them some

of the leaves may get really large

that's fine just cut them back what

we're trying to do is just get really

strong root systems so when they get

outside they just take off and you're

going to get to bloom so if you are

gonna drop these seeds outside come

spring they're saying it's gonna take

365 days well we want blooms now so we

start them indoors carnations 10 days to

germination 70 days for bloom lupines

18 to 21 days for germination 365 days

to bloom foxglove 7 to 14 days for

germination 120 days to bloom painted

daisies I know that I've grown these

before if you start them inside you'll

be able to get them flowering this year

next year you'll get a lot more but you

can get them to flower this year 14 to

21 days 180 to 308 to bloom

this is 12 days I also put a s right

here which means they need to be pressed

in or scratched into the surface 12 days

of germination 182 308 to bloom and then

the Canterbury bells 10 to 14 days for

germination press in that directions on

the back some seeds like to just be

pressed on because I need light other

seeds you can scratch in but you know

basically if you just scratch them in

1/8 of an inch

most of these are gonna germinate anyway

120 days to bloom so you don't want to

wait that long if and people said well

why they started inside obviously one to

get your blooms earlier but if you go

and plant these outside and it's

spraying the rains come the rains can

splash the seeds out wash them away you

can have a lot of problems it certainly

works but this is a way to really get a

jump on bloom time and it's a lot of fun

and you can just see how well they do I

mean rather than plant these in spring

wait around I'd rather put these plants

out and I'm gonna get Chester daisies

this year all right so let's start with

the butterfly weed now some seeds I over

seed for butterfly weed I take about

three seeds and just drop them right in

the middle I'm using the baby cells

which they salt the seed shop just water

to always water from the bottom

and he could Sinise if you want I'm just

gonna leave three plants in there but

our three seeds in there and of all

three plants come up I'm going to keep

them you don't want to just put one seed

in because if it doesn't germinate

you're waiting around so worst case is

you divide them up so about a quarter of

an inch down I will link in the playlist

for the seed starting indoors which will

show you how I prep all the seed

starting mix how I set up the cells and

I just press them in about a quarter of

an inch deep don't stress over the depth

and then

just press them in like that and then

you have a nice solid starting base for

the root systems to develop and that's

all you do for butterfly weed lupines

these are really large seeds if you get

a little bit and these are best actually

if you soak them for you know four to

six hours before you put them in but you

can do them this way

well that one went right into the cell

so you're gonna want to thin these down

so I'm gonna put in or split them and

the bigger cells you can split them the

root systems get so massive that you

would just divide right down the middle

pull them apart and you got two plants

and they're larger seeds so I'm putting

one on each side and the whole idea with

using larger cells is that you can keep

the plants in there longer if you have

the room you can just start them right

in these bigger containers you don't

have to start small the reason you would

start smaller is because you're just

germinating a whole lot and you want the

light to cover these on the smaller

cells if we started everything in here

we're going to need a lot more room of

light coverage to take care of all the

plants or for germination I'd like to

have them in the little space like this

all right let me put these seeds back in

here didn't drop a single one press them

down a quarter of an inch

now these are brown you probably can't

see in but I can see the light actually

reflects off of it and your lupines are

planted now lupines like a little bit

more shade they don't like the intense


Daniel lupines are planted foxglove is

one that I oversee this is 120 days to

bloom they will certainly bloom this

year and again starting time I mean on

the back to the pack sometimes it tells

you but I really you know recommend

starting knees at the earliest eight

weeks I mean at the latest eight weeks

but you can go ten or twelve weeks and

just get them growing they're perennials

that it's not going to hurt them to have

more grow time indoors extremely fine

seeds a large pinch I can't even say

this at least you know twenty tiny seeds

going in here I will divide these up I

will divide them up again some of the

plants might die off that's okay no

point in just using a single seed

getting one foxglove and then putting

outdoors and you spend all this time

grow a nice cluster like this a Fox

level looks something like that when you

get taller I keep dividing them and

putting them into larger containers as

it gets warmer here and I'm dividing

these I'll transition them outside so

I'll be dividing outside two before they

go on the ground and you just get

obviously yeah you get dozens and dozens

of plants from seed starting using you

know this method I just you could just

press them in there so fine but just

scratch the surface

and I have your foxglove in there

digitalis and they're actually a plant

you should not eat in your plant should

any they did are they used to but they

use it for medicine for your heart and

it can cause problems and that's the

foxglove all set up and ready to go next

are the carnations carnations are some

of my we'll get rid of that that's not

gonna fit carnations are some of my

favorite perennials that's a pity get

that open their seeds kind of look like

chive seeds I'm gonna put what's that

six eight seeds into a space these will

get divided up I love the red color of

the carnations and if you don't use all

your seeds this year just put them in a

sealed baggie like a ziplock these can

go down about a quarter of an inch keep

them in the house and you can use these

next year seeds can last years these

will get divided at least once so I'm

gonna have eight carnation clusters to

go into the ground things go out I'll

divide them again eight will become

sixteen maybe not every seed gets under

the ground that's fine so we have the

carnations can't fairy bells

really fine seeds it says on here press

them in so when you have to put seeds in

that are gonna be pressed in and it's

important to check the backs of the seed

packs will tell you any kind of

important structures you need to follow

so pressing the surface press down the

seed starting mix have a nice firm

surface and then we're just going to

take quite a few 10-15 seeds into a

space like this and just sprinkle them

onto the surface these again will be

divided and I think you're getting the

idea that with these perennials you

don't have to just do a single seed

press them in you can plant germinate

them just like this well receive them

divide them up get yourself a lot of

plants and it maximizes your time and it

maximizes the money that you're spending

you're spending money on these lights

let's just say there's about 32 so you

divide them out you divide them out

again and you could have plenty of

perennials you know for your garden and

for your surrounding areas let's do the

poppies poppies they have not a lot of

luck with these again are scratching to

the surface so we're gonna pack the top

of the mix down you don't want these

smaller seeds if they say press in or

scratch in to get into a loose soil and

then they fall down too deep and they

don't germinate sometimes light is

needed to make everything go but it will

tell you even if you get fine seeds and

it says mix them in an eighth of an inch

quarter of an inch that's fine so we're

gonna take some of the poppies sprinkle

them on top

and what I want you to take away from

this is that we're not growing single

plants we're not growing four great

green growth although you'll see that

they'll do really well we're growing

four established root systems and we

want the plants to think that they're

older and then when you get them out

into your yard instead of waiting 365

days 180 days 120 days dude you're gonna

bloom the first year for you so this is

scratch them in and that's all we're

gonna do not sure what the difference

really is between press and scratch

because the light penetrates in here and

then I just move it around press them in

and those are the poppies now the

butterfly flower we're gonna skip

because it's the same planting as the

butterfly weed over there and painted

daisies I highly recommend some of my

favorite larger seeds oil and I just

take four or five seeds and put them

into each state all right and I put in

four or five had plenty so now we're

gonna go to my pocket some more over see

them five ten in there they're gonna

divide up extremely easily quarter of an

inch deep spread them out I just make

sure I scratch them in and get them well


the pain of daisies and take 180 to 300

days so start these a good 12 weeks so

that's the other thing I want to stress

it's not so much how to plant them it's

just the prep time get them started

really early 12 weeks early let them

grow they get to be cut them back

cut the green growth back just let some

great root systems establish and you did

a love the perennials so this is my

second year on the property so I'm

really upping let's go to my perennial

game so that I get more color and more

flowers every year and I don't have to

worry about I plant them let them grow

when you get larger I divide them spread

them out alright let's talk a little bit

about lighting watering and feeding and

then hopefully give perennials a try so

watering is always done or at least I

recommend it from the bottom and again

check out the playlist on my 2020 seed

starting series that will explain all

that you just fill it up about a quarter

of the way put your cell in there all

your cells have holes on the bottom or

your container should have holes on the

bottom and they will absorb the water

and wick it up and you can see how it's

light brown right here

that means it's dry the cells over there

dark brown they're saturated you know

the water when the tops of your seed

starting mix lighten up and get to a

really light brown after the whole top

of the cell is a light brown wait a day

or two even three because the tops try

first there'll be plenty of moisture

down at the bottom there but you want

the tops to drive because it really

helps deal with mold and fungus problems

by letting the tops dry so again you

just water once your soil goes from a

dark brown to a nice light color so

fertilizing can be kind of tricky

because these are all going to germinate

at different times but the key to

fertilizing is to really use a super

diluted water soluble fertilizer

take the n P and K down to a111 n P and

K you don't want to use full strength

water soluble fertilizers ever on your

seed starts you'll damage them so let's

just say after the plants germinate and

they get about I don't know two weeks

worth of growth you can give them your

first light feeding and while they're

small about every two weeks as it get

larger more frequently but just keep an

eye on them because you're using a low

dose of a fertilizer if they start to

look a little yellow they don't look

healthy just give them a little more

fertilizer just don't overdo it

you can't pull away excess fertilizer

but you can always give them a little

bit more and that really takes care of

the watering and fertilizing that's all

you need we'll get to the light in a

second so for lighting they're gonna

slide right into here about three inches

above the seed starts I'm not going to

do that now cuz I can't forget up with

one hand it's kind of heavy with the

water now if the average germination

time say for these plants are ten to

twenty days you can leave them out from

under the lights for like five days you

don't want to miss germination but if

it's not gonna really germinate for ten

days or so you know keep them whatever

you want for five days if you don't want

to turn your lights on but on that fifth

day slide them under there they're in

early but that's what you want if these

germinate and you're kind of holding

them to the side waiting till they break

the surface and you miss a 24 hour

period they're gonna get leggy and tall

it doesn't matter so much with

perennials actually because you're

growing them for a long time and you're

wanting the root systems to develop but

it's just not worth it get your your

plants under the lights before the seeds

pop I put everything on a timer it makes

it nice and easy I can just walk away

you want to leave the lights on for

germinating perennials for 16 hours

lights on eight hours off after

everything's germinated they've been

growing 14 days or so you can turn the

lights down and have them on 12 to 14

hours and have a dark period of 10 to 12

hours that's all the setup you need to

do to get plants that are gonna look

just like this remember these were seeds

started on 125 shasta daisies

these are started on twelve twenty

divided once put into these containers

you can pick these up the seed shop that

I have and look how nice and healthy

they look you know and I like to go over

the cost so these will get divided one

more time twelve plants these will get

divided at least once another 12 plants

24 these have been divided already

they're not going to get divided again

that's 30 plants to over there

32 these will get divided say 34 plants

you'd easily pay 2 3 4 dollars for these

perennials once they get to size and

what is that you know 90 to 120 dollars

and this really cost maybe maybe 15

dollars you know so you're gonna save a

lot of money it's a lot of fun set

yourself up a girl like station like

this and have a good time while you wait

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