In the Greenhouse - Getting ready to start seeds for this year's Garden


well I'm potting up the last of the

snapdragons here they're way overgrown

out of these cell trays so hopefully

they'll continue to do well after I pop

them up and yeah I mean I've done other

videos on that in the past so not my

intent to kind of go over snapdragons

again for you but or with you it's I

thought while I was doing this I could

talk to you about kind of winter or kind

of seed planting it's Jan you it's

beginning of January now and usually I

try to use kind of that holiday time

between Christmas and New Year's to plan

out what we're gonna do for the garden

for the next year I didn't do much of

that I'm I guess I'm leveraging or

relying on we've done a lot of work in

the last couple of years here at PDX

garden home in terms of the

infrastructure of the garden and setting

up the feds and all that so I'm not

really setting up any new vegetable beds

or anything of that nature all the beds

are kind of there and we've already put

compost down on most of them we still

have some to do and then as I kind of

told in other episodes in other videos

where the main thing that's brand-new is

gonna be filling out the woodland garden

with more shade plants but but beyond

that they're still kind of selecting

seeds and buying seeds that goes on and

so what I'm doing on that on that point

at this time of the year is go in I use

the websites I mean I get the printed

catalogs and they're kind of fun I might

flip through them at night or whatever

share them with put them out on the

coffee table to share with friends and

family but when I actually get down to

buying it I'm actually browsing on the

websites usually and so I'm going to be

I am in the process of looking at

websites and the to cut my to go to seed

providers and there's lots of good ones


so I'm not suggesting other ones aren't

aren't good too but the two that I use

that are go to that do well for me here

in Portland are territorial seed company

which is kind of a is kind of the the

mainstay in our area I know that the

seeds that I get there are plants that

have been tested generally in the

Northwest area and and and generally all

things being equal can do okay the on

the flip side though they can be a

little bit more spendy than the

alternative that I often use which is

botanical interests and I like poetic

botanical interests has a greater

selection or what appears to be a

greater selection to me of flowers they

have a great selection of vegetables

they're not specific to our area so I do

but they but they provide a lot of

information about the seeds in their

catalog or on their website

and so I can usually ascertain what

varieties that they're selling will do

okay in our climate versus other

climates you know for example I was

looking at some new bulb onions that

they had on their website yesterday and

they were very specific about how they

were short day onions that would do well

in the south and so I'm not I'm still

kind of figuring out bulb onions here

and and so yeah so I don't buy those

right but and I bought from them enough

over enough years that I kind of know

which of their varieties do do well and

then I can try something new here and

there the other thing I really like

about botanical interest which is which

is not very utilitarian of me but it's I

like the I like the graphics they do a

good job on their pockets of they have a

nice presentation the good pictures and

illustrations and again they have good

good good information about the plants

on there so I think they they do a

little better job or it's a little bit

easier to follow for me on those than it

is on territorial territorial does okay

they provide the information the packets

clear but sometimes when they're dealing

with lots of different varieties of the

same kind

thing territorial seed packets will kind

of have this system you have to kind of

decode what zone you're in and and which

which variety they'll provide direction

for like multiple varieties on one

packet and I'm sure it's just a volume a

standardization in terms of their

process and a high-volume game they're

playing which is fine I'm not faulting

them for that but I am saying that I do

find that both botanical interest seed

packets are more straight more direct

and not quite as confusing sometimes all

of that being said I buy from both I

typically get all my tomatoes from

territorial because I know they're gonna

have a lot of good varieties and I know

the varieties they have are applicable

to our area so yeah a lot of the

mainstay stuff I'm gonna always get from

territorial and like I said a lot of the

flowers and then things that I know that

are basically the same or equivalent

with botanical interest I'll I'll get

there and then the other seed company

that I use occasionally is of course the

gosh Baker Baker Creek seed coming a lot

of people know about it they've got a

really beautiful catalog that they put

out every year and I'm not I don't use

them a lot because I have to be more on

my game in order to use them so to speak

because they're not specific to our area

they're located out of Missouri and and

they sell seats for all over the country

perhaps all over the world for all I

know but they certainly have stuff that

will do fine in our area and I know

gardeners around here use them and get

all excited when their catalog comes out

and all that but I'm lazy and you know

when I know and so I don't want to have

to kind of figure out whether the seed

that I'm falling in love with on their

catalog will actually do specifically

well in my environment or not so what I

use them for they also have they go by a

few different names like Baker Creek

seed company

they also have a brand name that they

call rare seeds I think and that's

exactly how I use them so when there's

something new or exciting that I might

want to try they had a yeah if there's

something new or exciting they want to

try that is not not not going to be in

the territorial pet catalog or the or

the pathetic interest catalog then I'll

go there or if I know of something that

I want to try that

and I'm wondering who might have it

there they're a great resource for a

company that I that has a good chance of

having it and so of course that stuff

because it's rare or different it's

probably not designed for our area in

most cases and so I plan to baby it you

know I plan to grow a lot spend pay

attention to it a lot grow in a

greenhouse grow a pot whatever and kind

of learn it the first season before I

really get into it there's there's one

plant that you don't really find in the

catalogs here in Oregon called the the

Cape gooseberry which is kind of related

to the ground tree but it grows like a

taller bush and grows a much bigger deal

and it needs a lot of heat so it doesn't

necessarily grow that well here but I've

been able to grow it pretty I've been

able to grow it here and get good fruit

from it in some years and so that would

be an example of a seed that but in the

past I've been able to get from the

Baker Baker Creek catalog so those are

my three main sources botanical interest

territorial and then for the more rare

stuff Baker Creek and then and of course

like a lot of gardeners I always like to

try out lots of new stuff I get excited

about the pictures and the new stuff

they have and I figure why not give it a

shot and that's kind of a rhetorical

question because there are lots of good

answers as to why not to give it a shot

like it's not likely to do well in this

climate or I don't have enough time

because I'm growing too much other stuff

or I already have twenty kinds of

tomatoes I really don't need to try a

21st kind of tomato so there's actually

a lot of good answers to that question

of why not

but but that's I'm that's one of the

things that makes gardening fun right is

trying some of those new things so so I

go for it

even though there's lots of good reasons

not to so then my process you know I

look at I have a database that I use in

the an electronic database that syncs

online on the web and it's a company the

company that I use is called it's a like

a personal database app called memento

and I chose that because of the

interface and how it worked with my

phone to start out with so I use it on

the on an Android phone

and then I later started using the

desktop application of it as well

because of course entry that way is

faster but it gives me access to the

database here in the field or at home on

the computer and it's just a it's not

specific to gardening it's just a

personal database app that you can

create all kinds of different databases

for whatever you want but I use it for

gardening and so I catalog all the seeds

that I'm thinking about buying in terms

and and also kind of put in when the

when the seeding dates would be when I

would start the seeds and when I might

plant them out those small plants out

into the field and I get that all in the

database and then we're at this point in

the year as I'm looking you know I have

one screen open maybe I can show you a

screen shot of this I can cut it into

the video here but on one screen open

with the with the seed catalog companies

catalog of the seeds that I'm looking at

and wanting to buy and have another

screen with the momento database and

I've just as I'm choosing seeds from the

seed catalog that I want to buy I'm

entering it into the database and at

this point a lot of times they're

already entered from the prior year and

so what I'm really doing is just

updating the seed starting dates to 2020

in the database and checking off that I

am in fact going to try to grow those

again this year

and then I add those seats to my

shopping cart online and then I'll put

in my order and hopefully I'll have my

orders in in the next week or two here

and get my seats and plenty of time

before time to plant out and need to do

some greenhouse management to give

myself room and get things cleaned up a

little bit see if I can do some

something about some of the moss issues

we've had this this year in the

greenhouse before I get the new seeds

started and all that but yeah that's my

process and all will all grow I'll

probably grow a hundred different

varieties of stuff in between vegetables

and flowers so on I like to grow a

little of a lot of different stuff as

opposed to like I know a lot of people

when they're growing for for real like

homesteading kind of thing you might get

you know one kind of cabbage or

something that you one kind of eggplant

or whatever that you know that's gonna

do well or that you want to try that

year and then you go to town on that for

production purposes to make sure you get

enough that can actually feed your

family and all that and you know I'm not

a farmer right that's the difference

between farming and gardening right I'm

not I'm not a farmer I'm a gardener and

so I garden for the aesthetic I garden

for the enjoyment of the activity as I'm

doing it like right now that I really

enjoy potting up plants I enjoy planting

seeds and I enjoy this process of taking

them out of cell trays and potting them

up it's very relaxing and enjoy all of

that but my friends who aren't into

gardening you know though sometimes make

the mistake of referring to me as some

kind of farmer and it's like no I'm not

a I'm not a farmer I mean I have a lot

of respect for real farmers and and they

they're growing at scale for production

purposes and I don't grow for production

purposes I grow for fun and for

aesthetics and for for learning

I enjoyed the process I enjoy the

process of seeing how different things


whether they can work in this garden in

this climate and what's the process of

growing it and if something didn't work

right last year can I do it again and

maybe change a variable and do it better

this year that's that that's what I do

and I think that's that's classic

gardening right and and I think a lot of

times people get kind of confused about

that because there's so much going on in

the community in the gardening / local

food and market gardening and small farm

movements that we're starting to

conflate people like me who are

gardeners with kind of the real the real

folks who are the farmers who are who

are doing it for real and so it just

kind of shout out to all those small

scale farmers and market gardeners I'm

not at that level I'm not doing I'm not

I'm not I don't have that capability at

this point I have another job I saw the

things I'm doing alright well that's

enough rambling on this my finished

plotting my plotting these up here and I

think I've pretty much explained kind of

how I go about collecting seeds or or

acquiring seeds I should say of course I

also had a lot of seeds leftover from

last year so I'm gonna have to make that

decision of looking at all the old seed

packets and some of them have been kind

of carrying on for a couple of years now

and so you have to kind of make that

decision of who do I think this is gonna

actually work or is it or is it too old

should I buy new ones and you know

that's always kind of you hold your

breath sometimes and and keep keep the

ones you have and then if it doesn't

work out you miss out for the season but

we'll see we'll see kind of what my what

my total cost on the shopping cart turns

out to be okay well I sounded good

ramblings all quit rambling right now

I'll see you guys all next time take